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  1. June 9, 2009 at 12:36 pm | | Reply

    What about his Wins during the WC years in each league?

  2. June 9, 2009 at 1:41 pm | | Reply

    The only issue I have with your argument Matt is that it relies on his stats, which will be worse in the AL vs. the NL (as you said).

    But that doesn’t make him a worse pitcher, just that he’s in tougher conditions. How do his wins per year break down between AL vs. NL? That’s the most important stat in my book.

  3. June 9, 2009 at 3:29 pm | | Reply

    good post Matt. I agree with you.. Wins are very, very overrated in my book, not useless but overatted, due to team performance, run support etc…. I go by ERA, IP, H, more than anything when I study a starting pitcher. Whenever the Sox talk about acquring a pitcher from the NL, I always tack on another .50-.75 to their ERA.. mostly because they’re facing a tough DH opposed to a weak pitcher hitting.

    1. June 9, 2009 at 10:26 pm | | Reply

      Yeah, using wins to study individual pitchers is difficult, but at the end of the day only wins matter. If a pitcher throws up a 10.0 ERA but goes 30-0 for the season, can we really say he had a poor season?

      What’s the impact of the pitcher’s personality on encouraging hitters to hit for him?

      There are tendencies for some pitchers to get more run support than others and don’t think it can all be attributed to random chance…

  4. June 9, 2009 at 3:46 pm | | Reply

    It’s ok, I knew what you meant. Post was dead on.. Adam is still dreaming of those Carribean dancers from Dot Day. Takes a couple, three days for the head to clear! ha…

    1. June 9, 2009 at 10:21 pm | | Reply

      Those Caribbean dancers were quite fascinating…

  5. June 9, 2009 at 7:30 pm | | Reply

    I see what you’re saying Matt, but I feel like switching leagues could actually help a pitcher regardless of which league they switch to and from.

    The wheels are turning Matt, the wheels are turning, expect a rebuttal soon.

  6. June 10, 2009 at 11:16 am | | Reply

    What a great topic. I think the best baseball minds have gathered and they couldn’t figure this one out.

    A little to the side: When I was playing fantasy baseball, I have played for 10 years straight until I moved to Costa Rica, I would start my pitchers based on what their pitch type was and the ability of the batters to hit those pitches.

    Maybe this is more about hitting pitches rather than throwing them and we should focus on the batters in the AL compared to the NL..

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