86 Responses

  1. americanwnfk
    July 2, 2010 at 3:57 pm | | Reply

    Artest shouting out to queensbridge isnt a gang, its where he is from. I dont think that artest was shouting to any gang, he is just a mentally unstable guy that loves his hood.

    1. roller g
      December 1, 2011 at 11:40 am | | Reply

      John Wall may be a gang member… but this does not confirm it… this gestuer is a 3… in which 75% of players display after scoring a 3pt basket… though it closekt resembles the sighn that the bloods gang uses… its not it.. sorry nice try

  2. July 5, 2010 at 9:41 am | | Reply

    Meh, I’d say that for most players throwing up gang symbols is less “repping the gang” and more trying to cultivate an image of toughness. I’m sure there’s a few former (and even current) gang members in the league but it’s a lot more rare than you think.

  3. corey
    July 24, 2010 at 3:09 am | | Reply

    first off the first picture of john throwing up the three fingers is what people do after they make a 3 pointer made famous by jose calderon and is very popular among different athletes such as lebron, carmello, jr smith, kobe.etc

  4. KC
    November 15, 2010 at 4:07 pm | | Reply

    John Wall is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc., a collegiate organization for men. That is their sign. All black greek organizations have hand gestures to acknowledge their memberships in these COLLEGIATE organizations. This is NOT a gang sign.

  5. KC
    November 15, 2010 at 4:12 pm | | Reply

    Paul Pierce is also a member of this fraternity. I don’t see any gangs signs in any of the photos presented. Many individuals have signs that represent where they are from. Hence the westside sign, ATL sign, etc. Most of the time these signs are not gang related.

  6. KC
    November 15, 2010 at 4:35 pm | | Reply

    Retracting Paul Pierce statement. I don’t think he is a member. But to note Lebron and Kobe have thrown up this sign. This sign however does represent KAY (Kappa Alpha Psi).

  7. KC
    November 16, 2010 at 2:05 pm | | Reply

    I was referring to Wall being apart of the fraternity. He is a member. But Pierce, I retracted. Pierce is not a member. Not sure about Derrick and Rose hand signs. The signs that they are ‘throwing up’ are not related to any fraternity, but I suggested perhaps the signs are neighborhood related. That’s all.

    1. sam
      July 12, 2013 at 6:58 pm | | Reply

      d rose is throwing up a pitch fork. its GD-(gangster disciple). sorry fellas. gang members ARE real and there allowed to play sports. i don’t understand why it matters in any way. you watch them play basket ball. why does it matter where they grew up or how they grew up

  8. Yalexis
    November 20, 2010 at 9:52 pm | | Reply

    He didnt throw up BK( or blood killer ) if you look closely he threw up UK( University of Kentucky)

  9. Gene
    December 15, 2010 at 4:43 pm | | Reply

    Derrick Rose is probably guilty of smoking pot, but if you pay attention to his friend standing behind him, he’s flashing a the sign of a rival Chicago gang and smiling too… If they were really members of those gangs, they would have killed each other on the spot, considering how bad Chicago is with gangs. Not sure how long it’s been for you since you were 18-20, but I sure as hell have witnessed several people jokingly throw up gang signs while intoxicated in my college days.

  10. Kirk D
    January 23, 2011 at 11:12 am | | Reply

    I’m pretty sure that John Wall is not a member of Kappa Alpha Psi so do not bring this fraternity into play to justify his actions. If you’re a member of the Kappa Tau Chapter of Kappa Alpha Psi, and can confirm that he is a member I will stand corrected.

  11. HoosierDaddy
    January 24, 2011 at 1:45 pm | | Reply

    DId anyone catch the Wizards highlights from last night? Wall was throwing signs after he scored the winning basket. Stupid if you ax me.

  12. Anonymous
    March 3, 2011 at 8:12 pm | | Reply

    Hoosier Daddy – I don’t want to ax u , I’d go to prison

  13. Khelin Bills
    March 20, 2011 at 2:13 pm | | Reply

    John Wall is my favorite Basketball player and i dont think these are gang signs.

  14. Chandler
    March 22, 2011 at 11:04 pm | | Reply

    John Wall’s Not A Banger.. You Just Saw A Young Black Athlete Who Has Some Fingers Up & Some Fingers Down & You Call It Gang Related..

  15. Pete
    April 2, 2011 at 3:35 pm | | Reply

    Just want to go back to one of the first posts…

    your “hood” is not your gang in any way shape or form. It’s short for neighborhood. Just like calling someone your “bro”. Doesn’t mean you’re in a gang.

  16. blackandamused
    April 3, 2011 at 12:43 am | | Reply

    @Josh…If you think hood equals gang it just goes to show how little you know on the matter. Perhaps you need to retake that “black101″ course you seem to get your most of your facts from.

    1. Josh
      April 3, 2011 at 12:47 am | | Reply

      Actually, in Boston, Hoods are the names of the gangs. For example, “H-Block”, “Lucerne St.”, “Academy”, etc. Also, gangs don’t necessarily always correlate to your “black 101″ classes, that just sounds racist. Please refrain from trying to put people down about knowing their facts when you may just simply have a different perspective.

      1. Joe Schmo
        June 30, 2013 at 10:40 am | | Reply

        Exactly and artest doesn’t mention any block or street. He always reps qb that’s it. Queensbridge has maaad buildings. He is just repping his home town, simple as that

  17. blackandamused
    April 3, 2011 at 12:45 am | | Reply

    @Josh…If you think hood equals gang it just goes to show how little you know on the matter. Perhaps you need to retake that “black101″ course you seem to get most of your facts from.*****corrected

  18. John Doe
    April 3, 2011 at 5:08 am | | Reply

    That is not Blood Killer that is the total opposite. John Wall is blood that sign is blood and so is the five point star he threw up afterwards.

    1. April 3, 2011 at 1:50 pm | | Reply

      I can’t see the initial picture that was posted that shows what looks like the “bk” sign, but I can see the picture of wall throwing up threes. Also, in the video, he moved so fast I couldn’t catch much of it, but if you say he threw up a five point star, then obviously you saw it. The intention of this was not to pinpoint what gang he belonged to, but simply to identify that he was gang involved. I appreciate all feedback from everyone on this topic and love that you all take the time to express your opinions on it. Please keep it coming.

    2. Anonymous
      July 12, 2013 at 7:03 pm | | Reply

      thank you john doe

  19. Peacemaker
    May 1, 2011 at 7:29 pm | | Reply

    I been around gangs all my life…. The signs John Wall is flashing definitely look like Crip hand signs. He threw up the “C” and “BK”. And I believe he also threw up the 2 backward “BK’s”, which is the 5pt Star. Thats all I could make out. I dnt know if his Frat shares the same signs but doubt it. Rose was definitely throwing up the GD pitchforks. But I think he was jus messing around. And I see alot of players throw up that “b” / 3pt sign… there are players who use it to rep a blood gang (maybe not members but jus showing love). But the other players do it cause they see the 1s who are reppin doin it.

    1. Sir_Fox
      June 6, 2011 at 12:48 pm | | Reply

      You could be right but if you know about gangs and what looks like BK to you could and looks more like 360 which is used for GD’s and is put up the same way

  20. B.Pulley
    May 2, 2011 at 12:25 pm | | Reply

    He Not throwing up bk its a E for east side that’s my cousin im brandon pulley his mom francish pulley alot of people where we from are bloods south east raleigh my cousin dont bang blood but alot of our family members do free my cousin BG as long as he dont bother any body who gives a f*** the boy can ball and bk dont look nothing like that homie and what the hell is sorry to curse but 2 backwards bks lol eastside bloods bang 5 point star homie im from south side raleigh haywood street bragg street I BEEN ROUND GANGS All my life homie do they bother any body are they out here shootin leave them alone they motivate us to be positive cuz they made it went from south raleigh to the pro check the murder rate danm near impossible

  21. Ty
    May 9, 2011 at 12:51 pm | | Reply

    @ josh reppin yo hood don’t make u a gang member it just mean that you are proud of where u from. There are gangs in the hood but not everyone from te hood are gang memebers. That’s like saying someone is in a gang because they say shout out to New York or Cali

  22. May 18, 2011 at 12:16 pm | | Reply

    For those of you who continue to leave these ignorant comments about racism, jealousy and hatred, please take the time to actually read the full article as well as the comments to see that this has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the observation that John Wall has flashed gang signs on multiple occasions. Its not a judgement of his character nor is it a shot at him personally. The man portrayed gang involvement, made it noticeable and has never claimed otherwise, made apologies for doing so or been fined in the open spotlight for doing so. Please know what you are going to say and what the facts are before you try to attack peoples opinions.

  23. Sir_Fox
    June 6, 2011 at 12:44 pm | | Reply

    Yeah he would be in the folk nation so 74 or GD and a lot of people are saying it is just him calling out to his hood or your reading to much into are wrong I see a lot of this from where I am from

  24. anthony hurt
    June 16, 2011 at 7:39 am | | Reply

    GROWING UP IN SOUTH CENTRAL LA.I KNOW THE PRESSURE A KID GOES THOUGH,HERE HOW IT GOES.THREE OF US HANG OUT TOGETHER,ONES PLAYS BALL,ONE IS A CRIP.AND THE THIRD IS A STRAIGHT A STUDENT.SO THE THREE OF YOU ARE WALKING HOME FROM SCHOOL.AND THE BLOODS ARE COMING TO GET YOUR CRIP FRIEND.NOW DO YOU LEAVE HIM OR FIGHT WITH HIM? AFTER Y’ALL HELP FIGHT WITH YO BOY.THE OTHER TWO ARE LABELED AS CRIPS NOW.THESE NBA PLAYERS GROW UP IN HARDEN NEIGHBORHOODS SO THE AFFILIATION IS THERE,ITS THERE ROOTS.SO BEANING A OG CRIP ITS NOT A SURPRISE GANGBANGERS ARE PROFESSIONALS, HELL YOU GOT THE KKK IN POLITICS.

  25. CM
    June 23, 2011 at 12:39 am | | Reply

    It is amazing to me how stupid white people are about black culture. But they will offer their opinions and promptly put their feet into their mouths. I am a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Our fraternity has had many outstanding athletes/citizens. Once you read this list you will know that how foolish you are to try to convince people that these guys are trying to be gang members when, in reality, they are trying to associate themselves with elite black men. Arthur Ashe, Mike Tomlin, Gale Sayers, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Penny Hardaway, Alex English, Nnamdi Asomugha, Kevin Eubanks(tonight show), Johnnie Cochran, Ed Bradley (60 minutes) ..some gang huh? By the way, it is common that people lie and say they are members of us and other black greek letter fraternities. Almost all great black men in USA are members of one the black fraternities. Before writing crap you know nothing about, at least go on wikipedia and look things up.

  26. soso
    July 22, 2011 at 11:52 am | | Reply

    All this is very very ignorant in the sports world majority of the time when u throw ya fingers in the air it doesn’t even have a meaning its just something to do,,,,I’ve been guilty of throwing my fingers in the air without it having a meaning behind it ……..but so what if some of these guys are members or former members of a gang..they ain’t hurtin none of yall. ..plus im pretty sure that they have no time to be involved with gang relations…..I hate when people try to sit round and look for any lil bullshit to start up..just cause a black man throws his fingers in the air does mean he is in a gang just cause a black man reps where he from does mean dat he is in a gang >y’all need to grow and josh its looks to that all u are doing is hattin and sayin a lot of dumb ignorant shit when u get proof dat these guys are in gangs then u can speak on things

  27. Tuna
    August 13, 2011 at 5:59 pm | | Reply

    They are EVERYWHERE! I got more proof for you. Gangs are infiltrating everything. I mean every president since I was little has been throwing the BK gang symbol like crazy.

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01207/Barack_Obama_at_1207188cl-8.jpg

    http://lastdaywatchers.com/wp-content/uploads/aokbey2.jpg

    http://laurafday.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/a-ok_clinton.jpg

    This article has racism wrote all over it. You are an absolute idiot.

  28. Dakota
    August 16, 2011 at 7:30 am | | Reply

    It’s A Known Fact That Derrick Rose Is A GD.

  29. smarterthanyoufuckz
    August 18, 2011 at 10:05 am | | Reply

    i think u guys should look at the referees hand signal when somebody shoots a three ..its the same thing .. quick to slander a young black guy. if it was zydrunas illgauskas making a three and he did it im guessing he would be a russian blood member right smfh u guys are nuts…

  30. JR
    August 23, 2011 at 6:33 pm | | Reply

    Yea, dude who wrote this sounds dumb as hell. One, Queensbridge aint a gang, its da damn neighborhood Artest from. Two, players do that after hitting a three. So what, that a sign bloods use. Its also a fraternity sign and the sign of saying “ok” too. I aint know a hand sign could only have one meaning you idiot. I didnt hear you say anything about Dirk Nowitzki hand sign in the finals after hittin a three. Im from Chicago, and thats a VICE LORD handsign he threw up. So am I gonna assume Dirk in a gang? C’mon dude, you a damn idiot. You quick to shout what a brother doin. Worry bout yo damn self. Hell, maybe i should write about all those white sheet wearin people yall got in congress. I got a hand sign for you, a middle finger.

  31. Youngin' : from a real Blood 's point of view
    August 23, 2011 at 7:30 pm | | Reply

    Thats not a bK symbol he’s holding up its just a B. Wall is from Raleigh, NC which is a blood populated city. I really dont know his ties to the gang but when he makes a shot or a good play he stacks(a variety of gangs signs)and he uses signs that an ordinary person wouldn’t know

  32. shaun
    September 5, 2011 at 7:20 pm | | Reply

    Get a life

  33. tony
    September 11, 2011 at 9:02 pm | | Reply

    who cares. gang members can’t play ball and go to college? Maybe they aren’t just the street dope boys everyone thinks they are.. Gang member in college? playin ball? sounds like thats a good thing.. Better to be on the court than out on the corner shootin and robbin someone..

  34. g
    October 29, 2011 at 11:29 pm | | Reply

    Josh games….u keep avoiding this particulr point that I’ve seen two people make……”Hood ” is short for neighborhood . So what if Dirk said”I want to give a shoutout to Germany”.. would that be gang realated……or if he shouted out a city or neighborhood in Germany. Would u think he was gang related. I’ve seen white players throw up 3s…funny u didn’t mention any of them

  35. yz
    February 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm | | Reply

    John Wall did not throw up no gang 5ign5 dats not da bk 5ign 5o y yall 5tarting 5hit white Boy5 throw up da same 5ign5

  36. anonymous
    February 13, 2012 at 3:39 am | | Reply

    I think of it this way, why would a bunch of grown men with millions of dollars try to gangbang in 2010?

  37. Anonymous
    February 13, 2012 at 9:09 pm | | Reply

    John Wall is deff a blood.. I once heard him screaming it out at a highschool basketball game during altercation while holding up the blood sign.. This was his senior year.

  38. Anonymous
    March 1, 2012 at 4:28 pm | | Reply

    John Wall is def a gang member and so is D Rose but who cares

  39. Anonymous
    March 4, 2012 at 8:41 pm | | Reply

    Who cares hop off they dick

  40. Anonymous
    April 30, 2012 at 8:05 am | | Reply

    “Recently, a photo has been circulating on the Internet which appears to depict me flashing a gang sign.This photo of me was taken at a party I attended in Memphis while I was in school there, and was meant as a joke…a bad one, I now admit. I want to emphatically state, now and forever, that Derrick Rose is anti-gang, anti-drug, and anti-violence. I am not, nor have I ever been, affiliated with any gang and I can’t speak loudly enough against gang violence, and the things that gangs represent. In posing for this picture, I am guilty of being young, naive and of using extremely poor judgment. I sincerely apologize to all my fans for my mistake. I pride myself on being a good citizen, and role model, that young people can look up to and I want to urge all my youngans to stay away from gangs and gang-related activities.”

    That is a direct quote from Derrick Rose released well before this article was even published. I’m sure a conspiracy theory of mass NBA gang affiliation sounds exciting but don’t you think these guys might be a little too busy to bang? These are (mostly) star players you’re referencing. Their lives revolve around the game 24/7, 365. I’m sure there are NBA players with gang affiliation but, at the risk of fueling further conspiracy theories, their involvement would probably go no deeper than strictly a source of capital (not that this wouldn’t still be serious, just pointing out that there are probably not any pro ballers selling rocks or sticking up gas stations)

    Not bashing you personally, I understand that you didn’t write this article intending to necessarily accuse any NBA players of gang involvement, but you should have written it from a more neutral perspective to stimulate discussion rather than argument. Humans have the unique ability to be offended by any opinion that doesn’t agree with their own, no matter how harmless your intentions. Keep that in mind

    I have spent too much time on this, God bless.

  41. Grady
    May 18, 2012 at 1:44 am | | Reply

    Wall is not a blood he is a g

  42. og
    May 26, 2012 at 1:40 am | | Reply

    John wall def threw up blood in the video.. The second gesture is definitely blood.

  43. maino13
    June 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm | | Reply

    REAL gangsters dont attend college

    1. Anonymous
      June 18, 2012 at 1:29 pm | | Reply

      You sound dum. I was Crip-n since 8. Not all drugs and guns. My OG made me go to college. I played football at NC STATE. Its a hood fraternity. If u dont live the life ur opinions mean jack. Im 27 still alive and wear blue suits to work like every day. Dont just judge it unless u kno it. And if you have to read about it, you dont know it, so dont speak on it. You sound smarter when you’re silent.

  44. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 2:48 am | | Reply

    Nigga please!

  45. Anonymous
    June 26, 2012 at 2:51 am | | Reply

    Your OG did you in the booty!

  46. Bmoresupathug
    August 31, 2012 at 7:27 am | | Reply

    Most NBA Players from the inner city are really good guys. They got to the NBA by being notice at college. They didnt make it that far by gang banging and doing drive by shootings. There are many hand gestures that young men throw up, both black and white. Why is it such a big deal when its a young black man.

  47. Anonymous
    September 9, 2012 at 3:49 am | | Reply

    I think most of the NBA players are in gangs or represent. If you know the fact you’ll know that most all NBA players smoke weed especially in the off season and also try and beat the testing during the season. Miami is known for that and Denver. As far as this article saying Paul was throwing up a 3 after he scored a 3 is ignorant; he was playing a playoff game and Horford from Atlanta scored a dagger to seal the game and mumbled some trash to Paul and Paul walked to half court to make sure Horford could see him and threw up what “I” thought was a gang sign. What, was he congratulating him by throwing up a 3 which horford didnt even score. Dumb nba people. your rich and dont need gangs!

  48. Darnell
    January 25, 2013 at 8:46 am | | Reply

    Ok I’ve read everyone’s comment & I must say there are a lot of valid points & a surplus of ignorance. Yes there are affiliated & active gang members in sports, however unless they are promoting gang violence to the community I don’t feel as though they are harming anyone. To be a young black kid from the hood, or ghetto or slums or whatever terminology people choose to use for the urban community, and see someone that made it from the hood to the NBA is more motivational than anything. It gives them a sense of hope to think Paul Pierce is a Blood & he won an NBA championship. I think that any athlete that comes from these type of circumstances and has done something positive with their life should be praised. Whoever said gang members don’t go to college is sadly mistaken. In certain gangs education is MANDATORY. Even rapper Cam’ron went to college on a basketball scholarship & he has been a Blood since Blood came to New York. I think that what gangs have become has a lot to do with the perception that people have on them, people forget that gangs like Blood, Crip, GD, & Vice Lord weren’t created for the purposes of violence, but to protect the community. I’ve been a gang member for over 10 years and not only have I lived the street life & gone to prison but I’ve also gone to college & gotten a degree in Business Admin. Not every black man in a gang or organization wants to spend the rest of his life in “the hood” doing nothing. As for Mr. Josh Gans, I do think its only fair that you address the whole Ron Artest thing because I don’t see him shouting out Queensbridge as a gang affiliation, nor does him witnessing someone stabbed for calling a foul make him a gang member. The man is from Queensbridge Projects which may very well be the largest projects in the U.S. is it not expected to see violence when being raised in an area of this sort??

    1. Joe Schmo
      June 30, 2013 at 10:31 am | | Reply

      Exactly!!!

  49. fatstackz
    February 21, 2013 at 10:49 pm | | Reply

    Speaking as one of John’s relatives, what you are seeing is a hand gesture he and his closest friends created when they created a social organization of young successful and fashionable teenagers in the area of Raleigh, NC. This is not to be misconstrued as a gang sign but simply their personal hand symbol.

  50. Anonymous
    March 4, 2014 at 3:35 am | | Reply

    all i got too sai iss daht john waul was not thrown uhp no bk mhy niggah wass puttn uhp daht soo woo slight misunderstanding

  51. Anonymous
    March 6, 2014 at 12:28 pm | | Reply

    nobody says shit bout the biggest gang in the world “the government nor the kkk but cause you interpet a couple gestures as gang affilations its a major problem

  52. Anonymous
    March 28, 2014 at 8:57 pm | | Reply

    I’m white and I grew up wit bloods, crips, gds, bds, Latin kings, and vice lords, dude that ain’t no gang sign. He used to throw that up at Kentucky. And hood ain’t a gang dummy. Home boy is proud. of where hes from. Like I am. This article is raciat

  53. NickDogg
    March 28, 2014 at 8:57 pm | | Reply

    I’m white and I grew up wit bloods, crips, gds, bds, Latin kings, and vice lords, dude that ain’t no gang sign. He used to throw that up at Kentucky. And hood ain’t a gang dummy. Home boy is proud. of where hes from. Like I am. This article is raciat

  54. Anonymous
    May 10, 2014 at 11:56 pm | | Reply

    no

  55. Anonymous
    August 25, 2014 at 7:13 am | | Reply

    Josh u say it has nothing to do with the color of your skin but you call out all these black player names and havent said anything about Dirk he throws up vice lord all the time and everyone looks that over cause their too worried about the blacks…… Look it up

  56. AJ Coffey
    October 7, 2014 at 4:00 pm | | Reply

    Kirk D, you are correct, John Wall was NOT initiated into the Kappa Tau Chapter of KAPsi at the University of Kentucky. I can say this with 100% confidence, as I have been the Alumni Chapter president in Lexington for the past 3 years.

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